and they have a narrative about romney that he was out of touch. my wife ann drives two cadillacs. you want to bet $10,000 he said to rick perry, that tied in. and the 47% speech that he gave on tape just reinforced that about people's already thought. >> woodruff: how do you see that. >> yeah, first of all, i think mitt romney does have a rose garden near the croquet field on one of his many he states. i agree with that. what is unique about there is he is the first candidate whose unfavourable ratings are higher than his favorable ratings. >> woodruff: first candidate ever. >> since we've started polling this sort of thing. >> that's right. >> so al gore had a plus 22 rating even in a losing campaign, john mccain i think was about plus 16. and mitt romney according to pew was minus 5. and so that is, that is a problem. nonetheless, the romney-- barack obama is no walk in the park either. >> huh-uh. >> and so hits people think he deserves to be re-elected, is the country headed in the right direction, those numbers are terrible too. >> that doesn't mean it's out of reach for mitt